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John McCain Traces Lineage Back To Charlemange; Claims The Holy Roman Crown

31 Mar 2008 06:41 am

Heh, people kill me when they attack black folks for the whacky isht we believe and for transforming Africa into this glorious continent, pre-whitey. Over the years I've been one of the people doing the attacking. But I never act like white folks--indeed all folks--don't do the same damn thing.

Witness John McCain who claims that he is not just a descendant of the 13th century Scottish King Robert The Bruce, but also of the first Holy Roman Emperor and founder of modern Europe, the 9th century monarch Charlemagne. Understand with that means. John McCain would have had to have traced his lineage through literally millions of relatives, and over a millenea. Haha. Bridge in Brooklyn anyone?

...the ancestral link appears to originate from a 1999 family memoir, Faith of My Fathers. In it the senator said his great-grandparents "gave life to two renowned fighters, my great-uncle Wild Bill and my grandfather Sid McCain."

Wild Bill, he wrote, "joined the McCain name to an even more distinguished warrior family. His wife, Mary Louise Earle, was descended from royalty. She claimed as ancestors Scottish kings back to Robert the Bruce." The passage goes on to say that Mary Louise Earle was also "in direct descent" from Emperor Charlemagne.

Not so, according to Dr Katie Stevenson, a lecturer in medieval studies at the University of St Andrews. "What wonderful fiction," she said. "Mary Louise Earle's claims to descent from Robert the Bruce are likely to be fantasy. Earle is not a Scottish name. I think it is incredibly unlikely that name would be related to Robert the Bruce. Charlemagne and Robert the Bruce were not connected - that's ludicrous."


Comments (2)

I'm not commenting one way or the other on the truth of the Charlemagne theory, but what method of math did you use when you said
"John McCain would have had to have traced his lineage through literally millions of relatives,.."

Let's just estimate about 4 generations per century (every 25 years a child grows up, and has a child of their own).
We just completed the 20th century, and Charlemagne was around in the 9th century. That's only 11 centuries, or about 44 generations (in other words, 44 relatives between Charlamagne and McCain)
What did you do? round up to the nearest million?

dude, have you heard of DNA testing? now, really, which planet and what century do you live in?

The Mississippi McCains, from which John McCain's family originates, has been the subject of a five year running DNA project. Now this does not address various maternal lines of his family, but it does relate to the general accuracy of his family's oral history; on the paternal aspect of his family's history the Senator has been accurate. And it is even possible that his haplotype is that of a dynastic family that rivals the famous R1b1c7 Northwest Irish model, research on-going right now on that aspect.

The family is as Gaelic as can be, name is Mac Eáin in Irish, from County Antrim, but a branch also in Donegal. Those McCains that stayed in Ireland have been DNA tested, do match the Mississippi McCains. There are also McCain branches now located in Ontario, New Brunswick, Texas, etc.

heck this site:
http://uhblog.ulsterheritage.com/

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