One other thing--I want to warn people against the what Chris Matthews calls below, the "Al Sharpton strategy." The basic idea is that you need Sharpton's endorsement in order to get the black vote. Of course Sharpton couldn't even secure the black vote for himself in the Democratic primary in 2004. While Hillary has dominated the votes of older white women voting in primary, I find the notion that she would add significant women voters--who wouldn't vote for Barack anyway--unfounded. Just as people shouldn't confuse "black leaders"--hell, or even "black bloggers"--with actual "black people," "white women leaders" shouldn't be confused with actual "white women." Whenever I hear people pitch this idea of Hillary as some sort of national candidate, I'm reminded of one particular section of Jeff Goldberg's beautifully reported piece on the 2006 midterm elections:
In states like Missouri, coolness toward Hillary Clinton puts many Democrats in an uncomfortable position. Harold Ford, Jr., is close to both Clintons. He is running a strong race in Tennessee—if he wins, he would be the first popularly elected African-American senator from the South. When I asked Ford if Hillary Clinton would be campaigning with him, he said, “I’m not running away from her position on the war or her position on energy independence. I’m doing events with her.” When I asked him where, he said, “In Washington.”I've made my preference for Jim Webb clear, but there are some very qualified women candidates out there. Kate Sebilius has actually been a uniter in Kansas, inducing her lieutenant governor to switch parties. Claire McCaskill hails from Missouri, a state that has voted for the winner of every presidential election since 1904. There's also another reason. From jump, Obama insisted on a campaign with a low-drama quotient, and that's basically what he's gotten. If he wants to see a flurry of outrageous memos, suicidal bullying of the press, and prolific backbiting, he should pick Clinton.Some Democrats fear any association with national Democrats, who are perceived to be too liberal. “I had this notion that I could convince people who were skeptical of national Democrats to vote for me because I could bring home the bacon, or because I could find some personal pitch to them,” Brad Carson, the former Oklahoma congressman, said. “But it was very hard for people to separate me out from Hillary Clinton. All their ads were Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, John Edwards, and me. They said I was more liberal than these guys, and that if I went to Washington I’d be supporting their agenda. I found that extremely difficult to overcome.”
Across Missouri, I heard similar fears. At a breakfast fund-raiser for McCaskill in Kansas City, Katheryn J. Shields, a Democrat who is the chief executive of Jackson County, which encompasses Kansas City, said of Hillary Clinton, “She’s great.” But when asked if Clinton should be the Party’s nominee, Shields said, “That would be a hard one.” The outgoing executive director of the Greene County Democrats, Nora Walcott, was more direct. Though she said she was to the left in the Party, she feared that Clinton’s liberal credentials would alienate Missouri voters. “You’ve got to tell the people in Washington not to nominate Hillary,” she told me. “It would do so much damage to the Missouri Democratic Party.” Clinton’s obvious shifts to the center frustrate Walcott on two counts, she said: “I disagree with the way she’s going to the right, but my biggest problem with it is that it’s not working. People don’t believe she’s a moderate.”
UPDATE: Sorry guys, forgot the Matthews video. It's below. Peace to all the folks from The Dish making their way over. Stay awhile.






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I like Webb, but I sure don't see how he meets the "low-drama" test. Low drama would be someone like Richardson or Bayh. Webb is ... well, he's a lively character.
I think Richardson brings drama as well. He has been known to have some problems with the ladies. It might be a little too Clinton Redux for many Americans.
I like Webb and think the way he is 'lively' actually helps Obama. Webb has the street-fighter, back woods, NRA cred that would appeal to many people that Obama would like to attract. Sebelius- what a snore! Compair her SOTU rebutal to Webbs from the year before. No contest. I just don't think she has what it takes to appeal to most audiences.
Hillary should go all-in.
Hillary should run a Lieberman-style Independent candidacy for the November presidential election. 70% of america disapproves of Bush and McCain is too old, Hillary has white women and some working class whites. Barack is black and a lot of Americans won't go for it.
It could actually be a pretty tight race amongst the three of them: McCain, Obama, Hillary.
I just won't believe Clinton wants the VP slot. I'm not exactly sure if it's smart to concede anything to the Clintons. In fact, the longer she goes, the more ridiculous her campaign looks. Would it be stupid to call her bluff?
I'm also from Andrew Sullivan's blog. I agree with your post 100%. I'm a big fan of Webb or Richardson, and I think the one sure way to lose would be to include Clinton on the ticket. The Clintons would overshadow everything Obama stands for and would fire up the GOP base like nothing else.
I'm from Andrew.
Hillary is a monster.