tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2009://8/tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452- 2009-06-08T03:31:36Z Comments for The Indispensible Ambinder Movable Type 4.24-en tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452 2008-10-30T14:43:05Z 2008-10-30T15:43:59Z The Indispensible Ambinder Ta-Nehisi Coates lovely nugget:

In Florida, a total of 46% of voters believe that "violent"  describes black people extremely well, well, or moderately well. But large majorities believe that the words "dependable" and "hard working" also describe black people.
If only they believed that in Washington, D.C. A "violent" but "dependable" and "hard-working" employee sounds like a dude due for big raise. Oh I forgot. I'm not supposed to be making jokes because Obama might lose. Ms. Holloway, get me a line to Al Sharpton, please.
]]> tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:136946 Comment from EdTheRed on 2008-10-30 EdTheRed Damn, TNC...it's like you're trying to win the Internet five days before the election! XD

]]> 2008-10-30T15:03:52Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:136948 Comment from emma on 2008-10-30 emma "My black employee is hard-working and dependable, but I'm afraid to make him mad because they might punch me in the face."

]]> 2008-10-30T15:07:07Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:136953 Comment from joel on 2008-10-30 joel Being violent is hard work.

]]> 2008-10-30T15:21:22Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:136964 Comment from James on 2008-10-30 James "Ms. Holloway, get me a line to Al Sharpton, please"

Ms Holloway: "Um, shouldn't you be in the lift?"

]]> 2008-10-30T15:37:07Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:136967 Comment from TDE on 2008-10-30 TDE Pimps work hard, no?

]]> 2008-10-30T15:38:04Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:136970 Comment from Ta-Nehisi Coates on 2008-10-30 Ta-Nehisi Coates http://www.ta-nehisi.com James,

Well-played, sir.

]]> 2008-10-30T15:42:26Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:136983 Comment from Tessa on 2008-10-30 Tessa This is possibly the most bizarre polling question ever posed. Essentially people are being asked if they see black people as dependable and hard-working (above the fold) or violent and irresponsible (below the fold). WTF?

And then there's this little caveat: "Hardworking" was always asked first, the remaining were randomized. Why?

]]> 2008-10-30T16:01:39Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:136991 Comment from gracchus on 2008-10-30 gracchus Tessa, survey was commissioned by Monster.com, perhaps?

]]> 2008-10-30T16:15:00Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:136993 Comment from Jon on 2008-10-30 Jon Violent, hard-working, dependable....hm...sounds like those Jersey boys who used to work the IT shop at the National Geographic back in the day. I say let's run with it ;]

]]> 2008-10-30T16:15:25Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:137002 Comment from zic on 2008-10-30 zic Have you gone postal?

]]> 2008-10-30T16:28:39Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:137006 Comment from Joel on 2008-10-30 Joel Wonder what those opinion polls would say about muslims?

]]> 2008-10-30T16:33:18Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:137007 Comment from n2itiveus@yahoo.com on 2008-10-30 n2itiveus@yahoo.com Zic beat me to it. Violent, hard-working, and dependable sounds like a guy who works at the Post Office for 20 years and starts stockpiling a bunch of weapons to go in one day to finally "win" that argument he had with the boss about the 3% pay raise he didnt get and also take care of the co-workers in the bosses clique.

]]> 2008-10-30T16:34:59Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:137012 Comment from Peter on 2008-10-30 Peter TNC,

Is there a Black Phone to call the caped crusader of "black" issues, Al Sharpton?

]]> 2008-10-30T16:43:55Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:137015 Comment from Rainy on 2008-10-30 Rainy Haha. When do black people get to be surveyed about what white people are like?

]]> 2008-10-30T16:46:57Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:137030 Comment from MP on 2008-10-30 MP When I think dependably violent, I think Woody Harrelson or Javier Bardem. Am I just hopelessly out of touch? Would I get laughed out of Pensacola?

]]> 2008-10-30T17:12:59Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:137044 Comment from Juba on 2008-10-30 Juba Hm--two race riots in Florida in the last thirty years. (Miami '80 and St. Pete '96). Racial relations often extremely tense--dating back to Rosewood times. A state with a history of gun ownership and frontier justice that rivals that of Louisana, Texas and California; populated early on by militant Seminoles, escaped slaves and tough rednecks (who proudly called themselves "tough crackers" in my grandfather's time) hardy enough to survive the swamps, disease, predatory animals and each other--the fathers of our motley collection of current wackos and wingnuts.

Not to mention the explicit sex and violence of "dirty south" music, drug and car subcultures.

Can't say I'm surprised, sadly. Honestly. Florida is a cauldron of weirdos and retirees. Being from Baltimore, home of John Waters and Anthony "AJ / Black" Jones, I'm sure you can relate, homie. :D (PS - you better get another cell!)

]]> 2008-10-30T17:41:00Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:137046 Comment from Juba on 2008-10-30 Juba PS that post was about perception, not whether or not the demo in question actually conforms to said perceptions. All those factors and historical clues help explain a conflicting set of perceptions, I'd guess. Just a guess though.

]]> 2008-10-30T17:44:42Z tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.53452-comment:137529 Comment from Ben on 2008-10-31 Ben Violent, hard-working, dependable - what do you expect from those who think all black people are defensive linemen?

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