This is the stuff you don't dismiss, you have to defeat it. Donate to her opponent here: http://www.tinklenberg08.com/
]]>You could medicate her down to plain old evil asshole again, I suppose. But she'd fight it. She's happy in ga-ga land.
]]>McCarthyism anyone?
]]>I'm gonna have to stop you there. They don't. Their arguments don't make sense, and they don't have to. It's a blinding "my team is perfect, your team wants to kill puppies" rationale.
And before Asher responds, yes, the left has its counterparts. Can't think of any in Congress or on pundit shows though.
]]>Can we at least agree that McCain is the new McCarthy? I smell a meme.
]]>Pelosi herself isn't a terribly thoughtful person. Alcee Hastings, Democratic member of Congress from Florida, impeached 20 years ago from his judgeship for bribery and perjury by a vote in the House (where he now serves) of 413-3, recently said that "anybody toting guns and stripping moose don't care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks." Sure, moose-hunters and gun-toters might be a little more bigoted as a group, but I don't think you can jump to conclusions about a specific moose-hunter like that, just on the basis of their moose hunting.
]]>God I hate this stuff, veiled racism and classic jingoism, what is next fascism? Now we are heading into a depression where last depression there was a rising of fascism. The last thing we need is this anti american rantings, let us stoke some more hatred towards those we disagree with. How is this helping?
My personal opinion is this screed by Michele Bachman is anti american. Is she up for election by the way, can i contribute to her competition?
]]>She's not cynical; she really believes that stuff.
On the good news side -- Rachel Maddow just announced that her opponent has picked up $30,000 in campaign contributions in the four hours since she was on Hardball. Join the fun at Elwyn Tinklenberg for Congress. http://www.tinklenberg08.com/bio.html
I wish Chris had asked her if Todd Palin was anti-American.
]]>Well, Congress is like any other large population. Everyone falls on a normal curve, and there are extreme people at both ends of the distribution. Michelle is obviously at the extreme end with the crooks, liars, and sociopaths.
]]>I think a couple of times she figured out that he was just f´ing with her and stringing her out to make herself look like the fool.
]]>I think had Matthews gotten all loud and frothy on her she might have gotten wary and thrown up some "gotcha media" talking point, but his good cop routine, showing some restraint, actually yielded the Full Frontal McCarthyism that's been just barely beneath the surface of the Official McCain Campaign Talking Points.
]]>My final thought on this matter is with regard to her whole "anti-American" shtick. For far too many people, ANY criticism of the U.S. makes you anti-American. This is utter rubbish but it's an easy tactic to use on an opponent in a campaign.
The truth is, it's not our right to question or criticize our government, it's our DUTY! Failure to do so leaves our government with no accountability (a bit like deregulation on Wall St.).
I am an immigrant from Ireland and have lived here for 15 years (all that time I've been in Oklahoma, talk about being blue in a red state!), and I'm still amazed at the number of people I encounter that equate criticism of the U.S.A. with being unpatriotic. As I said above, the truth is the EXACT opposite. A TRUE patriot WILL criticize his or her government, not for the sake of criticizing but in order to make things better.
Obama-Biden 2008 - anything less and we'll be going even further backwards!
]]>Like I said, Al-C Hastings, and Bob Casey Jr. is remarkably dim.
]]>And Heath Shuler is really fucking dim, but he's mostly harmless, because he's too inarticulate to do interviews. Larry King loves him some crazy Michele, and crazy Michele loves her some cameras.
When it comes down to it, there are a lot of congressional districts with a lot of dumbasses, and so you get a lot of dumbasses in Congress. (Example: Lynn Westmoreland, the cracker asshole from Georgia who will be re-elected because all the cracker assholes vote for him.)
(Macallan 12 is a sweet dram, T-NC. Complex but never too pushy. The 18 is velvet caramel, but you'd need to remortgage to buy it these days. With a splash of water to open it, though. And ice is heresy. Oddbins in the UK sold it on the hush for a while under its own label, at a complete steal. But single malt is painfully expensive in the US right now.)
]]>This is not a defense of bachmann. Her argument is silly on the merits and most probably cynical in motive(although I dont discount the possiblity that she actually is that stupid). It is merely a note that a whole lot of you need to check yourselves
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You mean like all the Confederate Flag humpers in the GOP?
You mean like all the Confederate Flag humpers in the GOP?
Or Sarah Palin?
]]>The lack of self-awareness here is pretty amazing. How is it appropriate to assert that "they"(millions of republicans) are racists based upon the activities of a handful of people, and yet it is beyond the pale to speculate whether an individual who has a documented history of having personal relationships with people who are undisputably anti-american?
Here is the central question. What makes someone anti American??? Better yet who gets to make that determination??? One of the reason's that this country is the greatest country on earth is because we have free speech but Rethugs would rather that we didnt when there is dissent. Just because someone is against actions of the government does not make someone anti American. People who feel that they can judge someone as anti American simply because that person speaks out against specific American actions need to check themselves. Who gives YOU the right to make that distinction??? Where in the constitution or in the Bill of Rights does it say that speaking against the government's actions are anti American? If you want to follow that logic then every militia man is anti American. Every person who spoke against Bill Clinton was anti American. Where does it begin and end in your world? Or is it just Democrats who are anti American for wanting to better our country. Oh I got it now...
For the dimwits who only saw the abbreviated youtube comments of Rev Wright I invite you to watch the extended version. Rev Wright is an example of someone who has criticized America for some of its decisions. But he is ALSO a former marine who was willing to fight and potentially die for this country. Have you ever signed up for armed services Iron Pimp Hand? If your parent criticizes you and tells you that you are doing wrong and are headed on the wrong path, if they tell you that you deserve some of the grief you recieve in your life becaue of decisions you have made.....does that mean they are against you? For everything you want to say about Rev. Wright understand that his church helped hundreds if not thousands of struggling people. If he hated America why would he be tryinng to help her people?
I will even go so far as to say that Bill Ayers shouldnt be classified as "anti american". Bill Ayers was anti Vietnam war and all of his actions were aimed at getting the government to stop the war in Vietnam. But he is still here in America trying to help our educational system. He himself repudiated the attacks on our country on 9-11 even though no one EVER talks about that. Bill Ayers had and has the wealth and means to live other places in the world. Yet he not only still lives here, he also gives of his time to help with the education of children in Chicago.
So again I ask you, what defines someone as anti American? Can I call John McCain anti American because of the many times he voted against raising the minimum wage? Can I call John McCain anti American for making propaganda tapes for the Viet Cong under duress? Can I call John McCain anti American for refusing to vote for a bill that allowed for harsher penalties for a person who bombs an abortion clinic? Can I call John McCain anti American for saying that its the governments fault that people are losing their pensions and life savings? Can I call John McCain anti American for criticizing Ronald Reagan for his military directions on Lebanon? Can I call John McCain for opposing Clinton's military actions in Bosnia?
Now if you can give me a coherent explanation of how any of Barack Obama's associates are anti-American I would love to hear you out. But please don't use tht "he said" bullsht.
For your viewing pleasure here are the extended clips of Rev Wright that Fixed News refuses to show. If you are confident enough of your view of him being anti American it shouldn't be to hard to get up the courage to watch this video.
]]>I guess people don't care about names at this point. Tinklenberg raised over 80k last night just in the time AFTER the Bachmann was on Hardball. I hope that kind of giving continues as people become more aware.
here is a letter he sent out.
A message from Elwyn Tinklenberg:
The last few hours have been nothing short of astounding. Since Congresswoman Michele Bachmann appeared on MSNBC’s Hardball earlier tonight, there’s been a deluge of support unlike anything we have seen. We are so grateful to the Daily Kos community and others who’ve sounded the alarm on Bachmann’s extremist, shameful rhetoric and pitched in with whatever they can to help end her tenure in Congress. Our phones haven’t stopped ringing. Many have called in to say they’re sorry they can only send money and wish they could be here to help. We want you to know what a difference your funds are making and that, thanks in part to your help, we are confident that we will be able to win this race. We are preparing to get out the vote on an unprecedented scale, and with supporters like you we will have the resources we need to get the job done.
I am both hopeful and humbled at the reminder you gave me tonight – that in our country’s darkest times, it is the strength and belief and action of ordinary Americans that ultimately brings about the change we need. From the hardworking folks in Minnesota’s Sixth District to all of you: we are proud to have you on our side.
Thank you,
El Tinklenberg
]]>Also, as a Minnesotan, albeit one currently in Manhattan, it embarrasses me to know end to hear the "congresswoman from Minnesota" at the end of the interview. It helps to remember that my home district elected the first Muslim to Congress. I bet Michelle damn near had a stroke when that happened.
]]>Bachmann's opponent is a Mexican wrestler? No wonder she's so worried about un-American infiltrators in Congress.
]]>http://minnesotaindependent.com/13662/october-surprise-bachmann-raises-nearly-120k-for-tinklenberg
How much of that Mac-12 did he drink?
]]>It doesn't seem to be slowing down. Fantastic!
]]>But where does a guy stand? All over the map?
]]>This woman really believes this stuff. In the face of history, int he face of facts to the contrary, in the face of...reality, she believes.
Completely off her rocker.
]]>This stuff is ridiculous, but doesn't deserve censure. She basically said that Obama might hold anti-American views. Might. Very stupid and crass, but hardly worthy of censure.
]]>http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/10/anti-american/comments/page/2/#comments
No, really, she is craaaaaaaaayzeeeeee.
]]>Anyway, iron pimp hand, I suggest you find a text book for a freshman-level logic class and find the chapter on fallacies. False analogy is the specific term you're looking for.
Everyone should go to Wonkette for a compendium of Bachman crazy.
]]>Lorraine, who's deluded here? You don't seem to have a very good grasp of the last ten years of global politics if you can write something like this. Stop patting your self on your Canadian or European back and turn on your own tv for once. At least Americans are trying to work through their problems in this election. What about you?
]]>Plus, there is an additional ActBlue Tinklenberg fund that is over 90k now. 300k in one day, basically. That is pretty damn cool. Plus, he should be able to generate enough news from the fundraising, if he wants to, that it will keep her meltdown on the air for a little while longer.
So, who's the next-worst Rep in a close race? And how do we turn attention in that direction?
]]>Bravo. Live, mock and let live. Perfectly correct approach when confronted with the absurd.
]]>Perhaps she won based on her looks. I wouldn't be surprised if she wins re-election.
...Men like crazy women.
]]>Yeah, Bachmann was asleep or giggling in the back swapping lipstick with her galpals when the McCarthy section was being taught. Some on the far-fascist right call McCarthy a hero. Sickening.
Maybe they'd like a trip back to the 50's.