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		<published>2008-11-08T13:11:41Z</published>
		<updated>2008-11-08T13:16:13Z</updated>
		<title>Coates on The Man of Tomorrow</title>
		<summary>Here I am reflecting in the Washington Post on that clip of Joe Lowery, which I&apos;ve posted umpteen times, and what it says about Obama and the rest of us. Check it out: I&apos;m not a religious man, but I&apos;ve...</summary>
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			<![CDATA[Here I am <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/07/AR2008110702897.html?hpid=opinionsbox1">reflecting</a> in the <i>Washington Post</i> on <a href="http://ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/11/one_last_timewe_need_more_folks_whos_got_a_good_crazy.php">that clip</a> of Joe Lowery, which I've posted umpteen times, and what it says about Obama and the rest of us. Check it out:<br /><br /><blockquote><p>
I'm not a religious man, but I've been enthralled with that sermon
since the day I saw it. I posted it on my blog four times. To the
chagrin of my partner, I wandered around our house muttering, in a bad
imitation of Lowery's Georgia accent, "Crazy things are happening." I
woke her up at 5:30 a.m. on Election Day, woke my son, plugged my
laptop into the speakers and played the sermon again while I got
dressed. When I got home, I posted the clip on my <a href="http://ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/11/one_last_timewe_need_more_folks_whos_got_a_good_crazy.php" target="">blog again</a>.
</p><p>
At the time Lowery made that speech, I was one of those skeptical
African Americans who doubted Obama's national potential. I had always
prided myself on being "good crazy," on being a little different. I
didn't go to my senior prom; I boycotted my high school graduation. The
moment I found writing, I dropped out of college, convinced that I'd
discovered my vocation.
</p><p>
On any weekend, you can find me on the sidelines of a <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Little+League+Baseball+Inc.?tid=informline" target="">Little League</a>
football game, urging my young son to throw himself at some kid twice
his size. On the evening of Election Day, I took him to tryouts for the
local swim team and marveled as he backstroked his way through
14-foot-deep water. Only afterward did he tell me that he'd never swum
in water that deep. He didn't make the cut, but I could care less. The
boy was clearly "good crazy." <br /></p></blockquote>

<p>He takes after his Pops! I know a lot of you were voicing your opinion on the kid's prospects as the next Mark Spitz. He needs more lessons--and much bigger lungs. The swim team he tried out for was no joke. But he has no fear of water, which to me is the biggest part.<br /></p>]]>
			
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		<title>Comment from stan on 2008-11-08</title>
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				<![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting that Lowery speech again. </p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-08T13:47:19Z</published>
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		<title>Comment from kj on 2008-11-08</title>
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				<name>kj</name>
				<uri>http://www.hjo-law.com</uri>
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				<![CDATA[<p>It's a pet peeve of mine, but it's "I COULDN'T" care less.  Common mistake, but the difference is obvious when you stop to think about.  Saying that you could care less doesn't tell us much about how much you care.  Saying that you couldn't care less means you cared not at all, which is obviously your intended meaning.  </p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-08T13:52:12Z</published>
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		<title>Comment from nan on 2008-11-08</title>
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				<name>nan</name>
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				<![CDATA[<p>Having no fear of water is a real empowerment, good on your son!</p>

<p>I just wanted to make one comment on the WaPo article and the wisdom of Dr. Martin Luther King: that being able to envision your opponent's "better nature" allows him the opportunity to envision (and own) it for himself too. For people stuck in a bad crazy, that could be their first offer of help out, to have someone else see for them that they might be capable of good. </p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-08T13:52:29Z</published>
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		<id>tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.57644-comment:139570</id>

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		<title>Comment from Gramsci on 2008-11-08</title>
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				<name>Gramsci</name>
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				<![CDATA[<p>kj, that linguistic ship sailed long ago. "Couldn't care less" just didn't make it, logic be damned. </p>

<p>As for Lowery's sermon, it demonstrates one of the brilliant devices of the black preaching tradition-- expressing theology without demanding flat doctrinal belief. That subway story, for some folks, is just an example of bravery and morals. But a lot of Lowery's audience knows what else is dripping off of it symbolically-- someone falling into the depths, a savior going "down" into the danger and despair to rescue them. He doesn't say you must believe that "Christ was crazy" -- or that Christians who just want safety and security don't know Jesus-- but he's putting it right out there in front of the audience to accept or reject. And if you're not into the God stuff, cool-- it still gets its basic point across.</p>

<p>Allen Callahan's "The Talking Book" makes this point beautifully.</p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-08T15:48:55Z</published>
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		<title>Comment from brent on 2008-11-08</title>
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				<name>brent</name>
				<uri>http://moretrains.com</uri>
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				<![CDATA[<p>Let me second kj's comment.  For some reason,  it drives me absolutely nuts that people get that phrase wrong all the time. Its more than a common mistake.  People say it wrong far more often than they say it correctly.  </p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-08T15:50:09Z</published>
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		<title>Comment from Ta-Nehisi Coates on 2008-11-08</title>
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				<name>Ta-Nehisi Coates</name>
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				<![CDATA[<p>Long time readers know I'm pretty open about correcting my grammar. But if "couldn't care less" bothers you that much, please be polite enough to send an e-mail--I respond to almost all e-mail--instead of derailing the thread. It's a small request. please abide.</p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-08T16:06:45Z</published>
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		<title>Comment from Karen Z on 2008-11-08</title>
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				<name>Karen Z</name>
				<uri></uri>
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				<![CDATA[<p>T-NC:  Perhaps you've written about this before and I missed it -- but what is it with black folks and water? Yes, I know that for many years there were no places where black children could learn to swim, but for millions of people today, those days are gone.</p>

<p>And yet, I have several black friends who cannot swim and are petrified to be around bodies of water. They <i>could</i> have learned as kids; most of them don't come from families that were too poor to arrange for swimming lessons. But their parents couldn't swim either, were afraid of water, and passed that fear on to their children. And now, some of them don't think it's important for their kids to learn.</p>

<p>I think everyone who's able should learn to swim, even if they're not very good. Because knowing how to swim rids you of that fear. And judging by your last sentence, you think losing the fear is important too. </p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-08T17:21:59Z</published>
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		<title>Comment from Liza on 2008-11-08</title>
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				<name>Liza</name>
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				<![CDATA[<p>Karen Z,</p>

<p>It's about the hair for us. I can swim but I try to avoid pools like the plague.  Too much work involving my hair.</p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-08T17:32:15Z</published>
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		<title>Comment from Gretzky on 2008-11-08</title>
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				<name>Gretzky</name>
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				<![CDATA[<p>I think you should let the kid play hockey, as it sounds like what he wants to do.</p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-08T18:37:03Z</published>
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		<id>tag:ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com,2008://31.57644-comment:139604</id>

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		<title>Comment from Tessa on 2008-11-08</title>
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				<name>Tessa</name>
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				<![CDATA[<p>"Those of us who overestimated racism would be smart to think about why we were so wrong. Those of us who are tempted to claim this victory solely for ourselves need to temper our enthusiasm and meditate on what we've learned. The lesson isn't that racism is dead but that people are complicated, that even the most virulent racist may well have a 401(k) and kids he'd like to send to college. Though fear may haunt him, anyone can be touched by a good crazy."</p>

<p>Yes. And, we should also think about why we were so right. We should celebrate the people we know (and there are a lot of them) who don't fit the stereotypes and pundit narratives of this election campaign. Those of us who feel a part of a new generation of thinkers. It is important to acknowledge those voters from South Carolina and Iowa we were surprised by, but we must all remember the ones we weren't surprised by---US.</p>

<p>That's what YES WE CAN has meant to me...it's an embrace of sorts, and some of us have been here all along, wiating to be embraced. Make sense? Corny? Oh, well.</p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-08T18:57:12Z</published>
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		<title>Comment from Asher on 2008-11-08</title>
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				<name>Asher</name>
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				<![CDATA[<p>I think it's dangerous to draw broad conclusions from Obama's win. The main thing I take about it, regarding racism, is how many racists there still are. McCain won the White Democrat vote in quite a few southern states, in a year where there weren't many good reasons for a Democrat to vote Republican.  Even in VA, which went Obama, 60% of whites voted for McCain; in North Carolina, which went for Obama, 64% of whites voted for McCain. Probably a more accurate conclusion to draw is that Hispanics sure don't have any problems voting for black presidential candidates.</p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-08T19:19:27Z</published>
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		<title>Comment from sv on 2008-11-08</title>
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				<name>sv</name>
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				<![CDATA[<p>I hope to be a father one day.  When I do, I'd like to start out, at least, with a son, if only because I know more what I would do with a son.  Of course, any child would be a blessing.  Anyway, there are a few men whose fatherhoods I admire - fathers of my friends, my own father - and I plan to emulate aspects of what they did.  I read here, Coates, about how you try to instill courage and decency in your son, how you encourage him to study and play sports and be good, but also to think for himself, and also - this is something unique - to use the poetry of life to do it.  Having your son listen to Rev. Lowery about the good kind of crazy!  Courage in one's conviction of the right.  And it makes me want to put you on the list.  Keep up the thoughtfulness, man.</p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-08T19:21:26Z</published>
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		<title>Comment from Tony Comstock on 2008-11-08</title>
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				<name>Tony Comstock</name>
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				<![CDATA[<p><i>"what is it with black folks and water? Yes, I know that for many years there were no places where black children could learn to swim, but for millions of people today, those days are gone.</i></p>

<p>My wife is so white that even though she grew up in the ghetto, she can't dance -- and she can't swim either, and her mom was a life guard! (In rural Indiana.)</p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-08T21:51:35Z</published>
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		<title>Comment from Tony Comstock on 2008-11-08</title>
		<author>
				<name>Tony Comstock</name>
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				<![CDATA[<p>Which is to say, swiming's not a race thing, it's an access thing. Don't know what my wife's non-dancing is about.</p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-08T22:22:21Z</published>
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		<title>Comment from renegademom3 on 2008-11-08</title>
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				<![CDATA[<p>Swimming IS an access thing.  When my marriage broke up, my three kids and I lived in a teeny two-bedroom apartment that had a swimming pool (outdoor) that was heated and open all year round.  Saved my fucking life.   I taught them all to swim myself, and all three of my kids are great swimmers.....and now, in better times, boogie boarders and one even surfs......</p>

<p><br />
AND</p>

<p>sv.....don't emulate anyone, be YOUR kind of father.  YOUR unique gifts are what your children will remember and cherish......you gotta trust me on this one.....</p>

<p>renegademom</p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-08T23:21:21Z</published>
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		<title>Comment from Betty Chambers on 2008-11-08</title>
		<author>
				<name>Betty Chambers</name>
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				<![CDATA[<p><em>but what is it with black folks and water? </em><br />
I would put fear of water in a Biblical, religious and historical context, but I may be out of my depth on that.</p>

<p>Visit NYC (or any big city) and see us at the beaches and in the water. Visit any public pool, we are there. Although statistically, a large number of us cannot swim. Swimming was taught at my high school until they cut funding.</p>

<p>As someone mentioned up-thread, for some black women - it's a hair thing.</p>

<p>Personally, I can't stand chlorinated water. I see public pools as one big public toilet (childhood experiences). And beaches at the NJ Shore are so filthy they get closed down. Yuck.</p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-08T23:48:55Z</published>
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		<title>Comment from garvey on 2008-11-08</title>
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				<name>garvey</name>
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				<![CDATA[<p>tc</p>

<p>i get your point which is set up and delivered with the lyrical style that you have mastered and that i find quite mesmerizing. however, when we talk about the great trust of king and obama for white folks i am missing something. i don't believe i remember king so much trusting whites as him believing he could use the gloved weapon of non-violence to literally beat the racism back to the caves. king engaged in warfare and he saw an ultimate victory over that racism. please don't make king and those who waged that war messianic believers. they were warriors; nothing short of that. their weapons of choice differed but they were weapons still.  your position is analagous to saying that ghandi believed in the british. no, ghandi believed he could defeat the british. as to president elect obama, let's not forget so quickly that white votes for obama were in large part votes against bush and the awful conditions brought on by a totally inept and corrupt group of so called politicos. i have to believe that we would now be saluting president mccain if gm, ford and the banks were raking in the absurd profits that their buddies at the oil companies took home last quarter. </p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-09T04:37:54Z</published>
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		<title>Comment from Drew Ricketts on 2008-11-09</title>
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				<name>Drew Ricketts</name>
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				<![CDATA[<p>As a young black writer who is doing some of the good crazy things you speak of in this article, I appreciate your accounts even more in a time like this one. Same drop out move when I discovered my "calling". Same mid-20s struggling to find myself. Used your Rawkus article to research my former employers. Keep banging TNC. We are out here, and we are motivated through you and with you. </p>

<p>Here's a lil sum'in on Barack and the 9/11 Generation: <a href="http://newsone.blackplanet.com/nation/barack-obama-and-the-911-generation/" rel="nofollow">http://newsone.blackplanet.com/nation/barack-obama-and-the-911-generation/</a></p>]]>
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		<published>2008-11-09T08:53:23Z</published>
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