Here's a nice debate I caught on NPR yesterday over what two do when those two things don't line up. And here's Ross and Larison debating about Stephen Walt, one of the debaters, and future of conservative foreign policy.
Thats a pretty good back and forth and I have a strong suspicion that Ross and Larison will be continuing that conversation for some time. Because Larison went last it kind of seems that he has the upper hand in the argument for now but I look forward to seeing Ross' answers to his critique. I haven't read the Israel Lobby book they are speaking on but it seems that the Atlantic played some kind of role in whether the book was seen as legit or not. Do you have any other background information on what went down with that? Because Ross says it was just lousy while Larison says maybe it wasn't perfect but it was far from lousy.
I had never read anything by Walt until yesterday, a different posting of his was linked at Memeorandum about slashing defense spending and how unlikely that was. If conservatives want to be for small government, you have to be for small goverment, starting with the Military. Seeing how I doubt that even liberals will cut the military, I don't see most conservatives doing so.
What I do see is that Republicans who were isolationist when Clinton was President will return to that position now that their guy is out.
Thanks for the clip. It was too long to watch the whole thing all at once but also very very interesting so I will get back to it. BTW is that the same Khalidi that the Rethugs were trying to smear Obama with?
sgwhiteinfa: same guy. I think the best proof of Walt's thesis is how this one guy, some random professor, attracted so much hate at the end of the campaign season. While Joe "Obama may kill Israel" the Plumber was treated with respect.
Thanks for putting up this topic so we can have a debate here, TNC, as Ross/Goldberg don't have comment sections and thus cannot be held accountable for their exaggerations.
Here's a piece no one cared about. Meh, whatever, probably the most enjoyable article I did during my stint at TIME. Premiered a month before I got laid-off. The nail in the coffin? Ya think?
Here's me going after Al. I didn't so much have a problem with him, as I had a problem with media acting like this dude was the go-to guy for everything black.
This was my first real story at time. I was writing for the Business section, a real change of direction for me. At any rate, it's about Wal-Mart's attempts to colonize the inner-city. As much as I enjoyed this piece, I mostly enjoyed going out to Chicago, which is a beautiful, beautiful city.
This a piece I did about the cops just outside our nation capitol, in Prince George's County, a few years back. I wanted to offer a counter to the dumb, conventional wisdom that if you paint your police force black, you could eradicate police brutality. In fact, Prince George's--one of the richest, blackest counties in the country--also had one of the most brutal police force's in the country.
The Beautiful Struggle: A Father, Two Sons, and an Unlikely Road to Manhood 
Thats a pretty good back and forth and I have a strong suspicion that Ross and Larison will be continuing that conversation for some time. Because Larison went last it kind of seems that he has the upper hand in the argument for now but I look forward to seeing Ross' answers to his critique. I haven't read the Israel Lobby book they are speaking on but it seems that the Atlantic played some kind of role in whether the book was seen as legit or not. Do you have any other background information on what went down with that? Because Ross says it was just lousy while Larison says maybe it wasn't perfect but it was far from lousy.
I had never read anything by Walt until yesterday, a different posting of his was linked at Memeorandum about slashing defense spending and how unlikely that was. If conservatives want to be for small government, you have to be for small goverment, starting with the Military. Seeing how I doubt that even liberals will cut the military, I don't see most conservatives doing so.
What I do see is that Republicans who were isolationist when Clinton was President will return to that position now that their guy is out.
as far as i know the Atlantic had commissioned Walt/Mearsheimer to write an article on the Israel Lobby and then refused to publish it.
The article was then published in the London Review of Books
you can see a very interesting debate with John Mearsheimer, Shlomo Ben-Ami, Martin Indyk, Rashid Khalidi and Dennis Ross here:
http://www.scribemedia.org/2006/10/11/israel-lobby/
and Tony Judt
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Thanks for the clip. It was too long to watch the whole thing all at once but also very very interesting so I will get back to it. BTW is that the same Khalidi that the Rethugs were trying to smear Obama with?
sgwhiteinfa: same guy. I think the best proof of Walt's thesis is how this one guy, some random professor, attracted so much hate at the end of the campaign season. While Joe "Obama may kill Israel" the Plumber was treated with respect.
Thanks for putting up this topic so we can have a debate here, TNC, as Ross/Goldberg don't have comment sections and thus cannot be held accountable for their exaggerations.
What You Don’t Know About Gaza NY Times Op-Ed
Rashid Khalidi
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/08/opinion/08khalidi.html?_r=1&ref=opinion